Showing posts with label simple church. Show all posts
Showing posts with label simple church. Show all posts

Tuesday, May 09, 2017

SO YOU WANT TO JOIN OUR HOUSE CHURCH?



Wendy and I regularly have to meet with new members, or those seeking to join our house church family, to explain to them about what we do and why we do it.

This usually involves letting them know that we have no statement of faith, and that we welcome anyone to join us as long as they are seeking to know Jesus better and want to follow Him in their daily life.

This means that, at any gathering of the Body, we potentially have Dispensationalists sitting next to people who accept Fulfillment Theology; and Calvinists sitting next to Arminians; and Cessationists sitting next to Pentecostals; and sometimes even homosexuals sitting next to straight people or Muslims sitting next to Atheists who are sitting next to Jesus Freaks.

For most, this is just too much and they have to admit that this is not the church they are looking for.

But, for those who do find this sort of freedom refreshing and who are only interested in knowing Jesus, and hearing Him, and experiencing Him, and focusing on Him with others who are also interested in the same Jesus, they discover a community where they are as loved and as welcome as anyone else.

We know we're different, even from other local House Church or Organic Church groups, and that's ok. For those who are looking for something a bit more traditional, there are plenty of others to choose from...and we are happy to help them find their spiritual home if it isn't among us.

Some who hear about our approach are concerned that someone might come into our group and lead us astray.

I understand that, if you've never experienced what I'm talking about, you might think that it's a free-for-all where "anything goes" and therefore it would leave us wide open for false teachers, cultists, or even other religions like Islam or Hinduism, etc.

Well, the truth is, it would be very hard for any person to do this successfully in a room full of people who are hungry for Jesus.

Hindus can't give us more of Jesus. So, they wouldn't find any takers in our group.

Plus, we wouldn't allow anyone to advance their own agenda, whether it was Amway, or Dispensationalism, or Hinduism, etc.

When we gather together our singular focus is Jesus. We talk to Him, we pray to Him, we listen to Him, we talk about His teaching, we encourage one another to follow Him, we remind one another of His heart and character and example, etc.

It would be hard for a Hindu to introduce their faith into that conversation.

Maybe that's why we've never had any problem with that?

As you might imagine, we are pretty sensitive to this sort of thing. Anyone who tries to advance their own pet doctrines or to sway others to agree with their particular convictions about anything is going to raise eyebrows in our group.



Or, to put it another way: We're not afraid that other people might rub off on us. But we are pretty certain that they should be concerned about how much we are going to rub Jesus onto them.

And also, I am not the leader of our group, Jesus is. For reals.

My personal doctrines and convictions, etc. are not on display or even championed.

For example, I've written several books and I have a blog, but most in our group have never read those books or follow my blog.

I just finished a series against Dispensationalism, but I have never uttered the word "Dispensationalism" in our house church in over 10 years.

Our focus is not doctrine, or anything other than knowing and following and experiencing the person of Jesus.


Some might argue that "just saying that Jesus is your Leader doesn't change anything."

And I would totally agree - if all we are doing is "just saying Jesus is our leader" then we have accomplished nothing.

But if we are actually working together to allow Jesus to be our leader whenever we come together - and it does take cooperation from everyone - then we have done something pretty amazing.

Having done this for 10 years now I can tell you that we have only enjoyed more of the presence of the Lord Jesus in our midst and over time our love for Him and for one another has only increased.

Those who are hungry for more of Him find themselves thriving in this community and those who want to find a group that believes everything the way they do finds that they're unsatisfied by our constant focus on Jesus.

Of course, it's very challenging to explain what our gatherings look like in a post. I wish everyone could visit one of our gatherings and notice how I almost never talk and how everyone else is sharing spontaneously from their heart about what Jesus is teaching them or showing them or how different people spontaneously encourage one another and pray for one another, etc.

As one brother said who visited us a few years ago: "If I didn't know that you had started this church, I would never have guessed it after what the Lord did today."

I've heard people suggest that what our group is experiencing is simply peer pressure at work.

I understand that we are so jaded by our previous experiences in what has been come to be called "Church" in America, but seriously, the regulating mechanism in the Body of Christ is not peer pressure [although, certainly it can be if the Spirit is not present in the Body].

It's really amazing what happens when everyone in the Body surrenders themselves to the Holy Spirit all at once!

We can probably relate to what it's like in our individual lives when we do so. But now imagine a room full of people who are all submitted to Christ and who are all seeking Him as their leader and Head.

Imagine that they don't speak to be heard, or to show off their wisdom, but only if the Holy Spirit gives them an encouragement for someone else in the Body.

Imagine that they don't speak unless they honestly feel that they are speaking, as if "the very words of God" [1 Peter 4:11]

Imagine that they don't do anything apart from the direction of Christ within them whispering in His still, small voice.

That is closer to what I'm talking about.

And until we started doing this 10 years ago, I never thought it was really possible.

Granted, we are only really beginning to experience this in a greater measure these last 2 years or so, but it has been so worth it to partner together with the family of God to arrive at this place.

So, our house church family might not be what you're looking for. We understand that. But for those who are hungry and thirsty for this sort of group where Jesus is the center and we all work together to keep Him as our focus, it's a wonderful opportunity to experience Jesus as the Head of the Body.

It really is the best thing I've ever done with the word "Church" on it for the last 10 years, now.

-kg

Wednesday, November 16, 2016

How do you know if your church is really the Body of Christ?




This weekend I was blessed to fly to the San Francisco area to co-lead a weekend gathering for those interested in learning more about Organic Church.

Our event was hosted at a local pizza shop. The sign on the door said “Round Table Pizza” but on the inside all the tables were square.

To me, that felt like an appropriate metaphor of the modern Christian church in America.

We advertise ourselves as being “The Body of Christ” but then once people get inside they quickly realize that we’re not acting like a body at all.

See, when Paul uses that metaphor in 1 Corinthians 12, he is describing how the Church functions in relationship to Jesus, and to one another.

Any church that doesn’t operate the way Paul describes isn’t really the Body of Christ. Sure, it might be a Church in the traditional sense, but it’s not a Body in the Biblical sense.

Simply put, Paul tells us that Jesus is the head of the Body. That means that He is in control. Not figuratively, but actually. He is in charge. He directs the members of the Body, just as your own head directs the rest of your body parts.

We also see from Paul’s description that the members of the Body all share the ministry equally.

God distributes spiritual gifts to each member of the Body for one reason: So they can build one another up into Christ.

In the round table model, everyone is equal; everyone’s voice is just as important and necessary as everyone else’s. Every member of the Body shares in the work so no one gets burned out and everyone gets to participate.

In the square table model, there is a human boss, typically referred to as the Senior Pastor, who makes all the decisions and quite often does most of the spiritual work alone rather than relying on the members of the Body to accomplish the work cooperatively. You know, like the various parts of a human body.

If you’re going to follow a square table model, that’s up to you. But please don’t refer to yourself as a round table when those four corners are so obvious to the rest of us.

For what it’s worth, both tables are useful, but one makes it easier for everyone to serve one another and use their gifts to build one another up.

If you want to keep your focus on the Lord, try putting 1 Corinthians 12 into practice.

If you want to put that chapter into practice, you’ll find that sitting in a circle makes it much eaiser.

Where you meet and when you meet matters much less than what happens when you meet.

Put Jesus in the center, gather around Him and use your gifts to build one another up in love.

That’s called the Body of Christ.

-kg


Tuesday, October 11, 2016

INVITATION: Jesus At The Center Conference - Nov. 12 and 13, 2016




Are you curious about house church? Or are you interested in learning more about how to realize Jesus as the actual, functional head of your church gatherings?

This is conference is for you!

Join us in the Bay Area of California for two evening sessions where we will answer questions, provide practical examples and explore what it means to allow Jesus - not a pastor or a teacher - to actually lead the Church on a regular basis.

DETAILS
Session 1: Saturday, Nov. 12 at 6pm
Session 2: Sunday, Nov. 13 at 6pm
Location: In the Bay Area of California (Oakland, San Jose, San Francisco, etc.)
Note: Actual address to be announced soon.
Hosts: Herb Montgomery, Keith Giles and Ross Rohde [tentative].

Cost: FREE!

RSVP at our Facebook Event page HERE>

Friday, September 30, 2016

5 MINUTE VIDEO: How To Build A Better House Church



What if you could learn how to experience Jesus in a brand new way? What if your house church could learn how to gather around Him as your actual leader? What if you could all learn how to eliminate all the other junk that seems to get in the way of seeing, knowing, and experiencing Him more?

Let's take 5 minute and talk about it.

Friday, September 09, 2016

5 MINUTE VIDEO: What About The Kids?


The number one question everyone asks about Organic Church is simply this: "What do we do with the kids?"

Take 5 minutes and listen as Keith responds to this question and offers a few ideas from his experience over the last 10 years.


Tuesday, September 06, 2016

BACK TO CENTER



Ten years ago my family and I made a conscious decision to step away from the traditional church model in favor of a more organic form of church.

Instead of pastor-centric gatherings, we wanted everyone in the Body of Christ to use their spiritual gifts to build up one another.

Instead of a programmatic order of service, we wanted to embrace the freedom we all have in Christ to be led by the Holy Spirit.

Maybe you've been there?

Here's what I've noticed: Some groups tend to swing too far in one direction and miss the point entirely.

For example: You say your group doesn't want to be pastor-led, but does that mean you should have total chaos instead? Is that really what we see in the New Testament ekklesia?

Hardly.

In fact, Paul even makes a point to say "For God is not a God of confusion, but of peace", and he does so in the very same chapter that many organic churches look to find their model. [See 1 Cor. 14:33]

Here's the real problem: The ekklesia isn't about liturgy or a lack of liturgy. It isn't about structures we choose or the celebration of our freedom in the gathering.

The ekklesia is about Jesus.

If you miss that, you've missed the entire point.

So, let me ask you: How does your gathering place Jesus at the center?

Better yet: Imagine what would happen if Jesus physically appeared to everyone in your church gathering. How different would that gathering be compared to the way your meetings currently look?

Now, let me remind you of something: Jesus IS in your midst every single time you gather together in His name.

If you could see Jesus with your eyes and hear Him with your ears, your meeting would probably look different, I'm guessing.

But since you know, by faith, that Jesus IS in your meeting, what can you do to see Him and hear Him better?

The answer to that question is exactly what your organic church should be working on together - every time you meet.

Here are some ideas to get you started:
*Sit silently together with your heads bowed and your eyes closed
*Wait on Jesus to reveal Himself to you
*Only speak to Jesus, not to one another
*Sing spontaneous songs of worship to Him
*Thank Him for His goodness
*Praise Him for His majesty
*Read specific scriptures out loud that speak of His wonder, and power and love [See Col. 1:15-22; Romans 8:31-39; Rev. 5; Heb. 1:1-13; Eph.3:14-21, etc.]
*Continually work together to keep Jesus the center of your attention for as long as you can

More and more, your organic church can begin to experience the presence of Jesus in your meetings if you will collaborate together in this way to realize His authority over each of you, and to submit completely to His leadership.

If you try this, please share your experiences in the comments below or send me an email to let me know how it goes!

I can't wait to hear how the Lord Jesus reveals Himself to your church family.

Peace,
Keith




Monday, September 05, 2016

5 MINUTE VIDEO: Organic Church 101


Take 5 minutes to listen as Keith Giles describes what the ideal Organic Church meeting should be like, and why it often fails.




Friday, September 02, 2016

5 MINUTE VIDEO: Discipleship [Part 5] "Spiritual Gifts & Love"


Got 5 minutes? Listen as Keith explains why Paul always pairs love with spiritual gifts and why so many organic churches struggle to realize the presence of Jesus when they come together.







Monday, June 13, 2016

INTERVIEW: REAL TALK RADIO "THIS IS MY BODY: EKKLESIA AS GOD INTENDED"



Why do we do so many things in church that we can't find in the scriptures? What is a house/organic church? Is there a difference? How is the true church supposed to operate?

We will discuss these questions and many more.

**
So enjoyed this interview with the guys at Real Talk Radio.

Part 2 is coming soon!

CLICK TO LISTEN:

Tuesday, September 01, 2015

HOUSE CHURCH DYNAMICS: ORGANIC CHURCH CONFERENCE





Join Dan Notti, Keith Giles, and Matt and Christa McKirland for a day long conversation about Organic Church. 

Date: Saturday, Sept. 19, 2015
COST: FREE! 

TIME: 9am to 2pm [everyone brings their own sack lunch] 

LOCATION: Fuller Seminary, Irvine [off of Sky Park] 

ADDRESS: 17744 Sky Park Cir #150, Irvine, CA 92614 

CONTENT: 
Relational Dynamics - Guiding principles; Love and trust; Authentic Community, etc. Organizational Dynamics - Leadership; Finances; Accountability; Facilities, etc. Developmental Dynamics - Discipleship; Ministry; Spiritual Gifts; Unity, etc. 

FORMAT: Short [15 minute] intro of each topic followed by open dialog by attendees.

WHO'S THIS FOR?
Anyone who is either looking to join and/or start an Organic Church, or anyone who is currently a contributing member of an Organic Church Body.

DON'T MISS IT!

Wednesday, July 01, 2015

EPISODE 18: "Hard Conversations" - Dan Notti & Keith Giles [Video Podcast]


When and how do you have that hard conversation with a brother or sister in Christ who needs gentle correction or rebuke?

Dan and Keith share from real life personal experience how hard it can be, and what not to do, the next time you have to sit down with someone in your life who needs to know about their blind spot.

Humility, love and sincere concern are essential. Never undertake this process unless you genuinely love and care for the person. 

Recognize your own blind spot, too, and keep in mind we're all in need of people in our lives who have permission to show us an area where we are not yet formed into the image of Christ.

Wednesday, June 17, 2015

Episode 17: "Warning Signs of Unhealthy Church" - Dan Notti and Keith Giles




NEW IMPROVED AUDIO FILE

What are the warning signs of an abusive or unhealthy church?

How do you know when to run - not walk - to the nearest exit?
How can you make sure that your house church doesn't become unhealthy or abusive?
What is it that makes a church safe for everyone to be who they really are?
All this and more in Episode 17 of the Video Skype Podcast series with Dan and Keith.

Friday, June 12, 2015

Episode 16: Dan Notti & Keith Giles "Personal Revelations"


After a 2 week hiatus, Dan and Keith share some of their personal testimonies about what God has been showing them after some down time.

Including:
*We still have a lot to learn
*Neither of us has it all figured out
*God always reveals our weaknesses in the positive, not through condemnation
*It really is all about Jesus
*And more!

Wednesday, May 27, 2015

Episode 15: Dan Notti & Keith Giles - "Teaching and Learning"


In our pursuit of Spiritual Formation as the central activity of the Ekklesia, how do we handle teaching, listening and learning? What do we do when some of our views collide? How do we create an optimal environment for learning?

Thursday, May 14, 2015

EPISODE 13: Dan Notti & Keith Giles - "What Every Pastor Should Realize"


Evangelical Christianity is on a downward spiral in America. Why? What can be done? How can Pastors of Traditional Churches stem the tide? What does it mean for Organic Churches?

Listen as Keith and Dan speak candidly about the challenges facing the American Christian Church today and what is really holding back the Church from the growth and vitality that Jesus intended for it.

Follow Dan Notti's blog at:
www.DanNotti.com

Follow Keith Giles at:
www.KeithGiles.com

Wednesday, April 29, 2015

EPISODE 11: Dan Notti & Keith Giles: Missed Opportunities


Sometimes we miss our chance to live out our faith. Why does that happen? How can we improve our serve? Why do we have to re-learn the same lessons over and over again?

Thursday, April 16, 2015

EPISODE 9: Dan Notti and Keith Giles: "Being The Church"?


What does it mean to "Be The Church"?
Don't we need to find out what the Church is first?
How can we work towards unity in the Body of Christ?
These topics and more are part of this week's episode.

Wednesday, March 25, 2015

EPISODE 7: DAN NOTTI AND KEITH GILES: "THE DONES" AND "SUSTAINABILITY"

In this episode, Dan and Keith talk about a variety of subjects, including:
*What happens when God gives the same scripture to 2 different people, 2 weeks in a row?
*Who are "The Dones" and how should the Church respond?
*How can Organic churches sustain and retain membership and engagement?